RE: [syndication] More Ratings stuff

["Jeff Barr" <jeff@vertexdev.com>]

I will be happy to support this on the client side. Presumably
we are talking about "Am I Newsworthy Or Not" (cf. www.amihotornot.com).

We need to come to some agreement on:

1. IDs for items.

2. IDs for channels. I've been using my own GUID model inside of 
   Headline Viewer so that a "channel" can survive a change in name or
   URL (yes there are lots of deep semantics that I am overlooking 
   here but I am thinking from the user's point of view).

3. Some kind of accumulator for "ranking" them (a web service somewhere)
   which takes (ID, rank, rater) records.

4. An API to the accumulator which can take an array of IDs and return
   some ranks. This should work on a group of things to avoid excessive
   round-trips. Note that it would be nice if IDs for channels and
   items did not overlap, so that I could just request rankings for a
   big pile of them all at once, helter-skelter.

5. I don't know how to distribute the accumulator site. Someone has to
   receive records, tabulate them, and make the results available.

We also need to add some time-sensitivity to the model. I would like to
know about news that is popular in a given (or just the current) day.

I'm not too excited about ratings on rankers. While its formally
very cool, I think it is a lot of overhead for not enough gain. Sure
its cool to know that "people I trust liked this", but we are nowhere
near critical mass. Anyway, what you want is "people like me (generically)
like this", in most cases.

This cries out for the application of liberal amounts of SOAP (Hi, Dave).

And with that, gotta run!

Jeff;

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Winer [mailto:dave@userland.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 12:58 PM
To: syndication@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [syndication] More Ratings stuff


> This is *exactly* why I want rate items and channels. And I want the
> readers to rate them. And I don't want anyone to dominate the process. 

Well, you gotta know this.. 

I agree with you!!

The best way to start something is to start something.

Start rating.

Go go go!

Dave




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julian Bond" <julian@netmarketseurope.com>
To: <syndication@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 12:55 PM
Subject: [syndication] More Ratings stuff


> I just spotted a comment on Dave's Scripting News home page that caught
> my eye.
> 
> "This is the biggest problem-opportunity in RSS space. Discovery can be
> overwhelming. Too many channels, too hard to find the good ones. We need
> curators and critics -- people who appreciate a good channel. Let's also
> learn what makes a channel good. What's your favorite and why? As the
> tools get better we'll be asking these kinds of questions."
> 
> 
> -- 
> Julian Bond mail:julian@netmarketseurope.com
> workurl:http://www.netmarketseurope.com
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> tag:So many words so little time
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