Re: Re: [syndication] RE: RFC: Clearing confusion for RSS, agreement for forward motion

["Dave Winer" <dave@userland.com>]

It doesn't matter so much what these things mean to you and I, what matters
is what they mean to newbies.

I'm going to be really straight -- the two new names must not be
RSS-anything. Otherwise it's absolutely as messy as it is now. I took my own
medicine, OPML is not called RSS-Outlines. Leave RSS where it is, and create
something new. That's what should have happened in August, imho.

Dave


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rael Dornfest" <rael@oreilly.com>
To: <syndication@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 7:04 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [syndication] RE: RFC: Clearing confusion for RSS,
agreement for forward motion


> Howdy,
>
> : --- In syndication@y..., "Dave Winer" <dave@u...> wrote:
>
> : 1. RSS 0.91
> :
> : 2. RSS-Simple x.xx
> :
> : 3. RSS-Semantic-x.xx
> :
> : The problem is this.
> :
> : Why is RSS-Simple simpler than RSS 0.91?
>
> I believe folks were proposing "Simple" based upon your
> reallySimpleSyndication.  RSS-Simple is obviously a stand-in until a new
> name is found.  We could borrow further from XMLNews and go with:
>
>   RSS-Meta
>   RSS-Story
>
> The only problem is that RSS-Story might start carrying more metadata and
> Meta (as RSS 1.0) already has a content module.  Here are a few more:
>
>   RSS-Headline
>   RSS-Syndication
>   RSS-Content
>   ...?
>
> As for the RSS 1.0 side, I'm equally happy with RSS-Meta or RSS-Semantic;
> I'm not particularly RSS-Pedantic about it ;-)
>
> : The answer is: It isn't!
>
> Nothing states that it should be; the simplicity refers to a lack of
> namespaces, lack of RDF, and so on.
>
> RSS is the root.
>
> : Anyway, the only real issue here is clearing up the naming.
>
> I'm glad we agree on this.  Of course, if you (or others) have any more
> feedback on my response when you have more time, I'd of course love to
hear
> it.
>
> : When the right names are arrived at, if they are, RSS will be simple and
> : easy to understand, as it once was, and both paths forward will have an
> : equal chance at attracting users. Lots more to say about it, but it all
> : boils down to this.
>
> I believe by simply uniting and putting forth a unified front and complete
> story with RSS as the root and trunk and different branches, this will go
> one heck of a long way toward making RSS simpler for all.  Currently its
the
> politics far more than the serialization that's far from simple.
>
> Rael
>
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