Jim, you got it exactly right, including the Sturgeon's Law part. I wrote my own piece about this a few years back [1]. BTW, I finally got a demo of AmphetaDesk -- and it's a pretty straight clone of the aggregator in Radio. So apparently Morbus likes *some* of what we do. ;-> Dave [1] http://davenet.userland.com/1995/09/03/wemakeshittysoftware