Re: [syndication] Re: Moreover Terms and Conditions

[burton@openprivacy.org]

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"wkearney99" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> writes:

> > Good luck enforcing that!
> 
> Hey, that's the spirit!  Tell someone that's providing free content to p*ss off!
> It's their content and they're interested in having some say in how it's
> distributed, what's wrong with that?

Nothing is wrong with that!  Just literally... good luck enforcing that!

The point I was trying to make is that IP really can't be controlled on the
Internet.  AKA Napster.

> > Hm.  I may have to consider the use of only Open Source content within
> > Reptile.
> 
> Such is your choice but you'd miss a ton of news besides just moreover,
> newsisfree comes to mind...

I would probably set it up as an option for the user.

> > Right now syndic8 has WAY more RSS feeds than moreover and is much better
> > without moreover's stupid ad ware.
>
> Syndic8 does not have feeds.  Syndic8 has a list of feeds.  There's a
> difference.  Feeds contain items with content.  Syndic8 is just a pointer to
> them.  What moreover (and others; meerkat, nif) provide is aggregation of
> items into new feeds.  Moreover has both synthetic and human aggregated feeds.
> Some are more useful than others but they've got a great range of choices.
> 
> My point is why bother to complain about how a content aggregator wants to
> control the distribution?  If you don't like what they're asking you're
> certainly free to not consume the material.

I don't think you understand where I am coming from.  When you are part of a
major Open Source effort, AKA Apache, Debian, etc. you have to be very
conservative with what you do with controlled content.

AKA SUNs Java is proprietary, non-free and we treat it as such.

I just think we need to have a way to mark content as 'non-free'. Users can
still use the content if they want but it is up to them.

> Now, there is a good question as to whether you'd allow your OWN content to be
> handled by an aggregator.  Good luck enforcing that!

sure... why not?  Do what you want with it!

> Maybe we need to put more effort into just getting the content consumed?  We
> should be so lucky as to have it become so popular everyone wants to steal
> it...
<snip/>

... the world 'steal' drastically over simplifies the problem.

What if website 'foo' gets content from moreover, foo then syndicates one item
to 'bar', 'bar' is now 'stealing' content from moreover and they didn't even
know it. :(

The point I was trying to make is that IP is very tough to control on the
Internet.  A lot of us (AKA the Open Source movement) realize this and try to
form a Zen type of solution.

Kevin

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