Re: [syndication] Re: shared feed lists

["Bill Kearney" <ml_yahoo@ideaspace.net>]

> > As to ADX, it's as useful as anything else I suppose, here's a list in it's
format:
> > http://www.syndic8.com/genfeed.php?Format=adx&UserID=wkearney99&List=8
> Very nice.

Thanks, and again, if additions/changes/fixes are needed by all means ask.

> Taking into context that James was transcribing my example in WSIL[1],
IndexRef is a
> link to another directory/index. The equivalent of the <link> element in WSIL.
This is
> not limited to itself.

Ah, ok then.  Hmmm, when I have a user personal list I could, conceivably, also
grab the list of their others as well.  I'd wonder about the utility of it.
What good does it do you to have a list of my 30 other lists without some sort
of semantics?   It doesn't make sense, in the s8 context, to link these without
some sort of understood reasoning.  I'm of the impression most folks would
actually /resent/ the automagic inclusion of lists in such cross-referencing
fashion.  That'd be naive, but such is their comfort level and I'm not out to
make them nervous.

Now, we /do/ have the ability to output entire groups of lists based on their
category.  Trouble is, not enough feeds properly categorize themselves to make
for useful lists.  "Mr. Chicken, I'd like you to meet Mr. Egg."

> In my feedback I note that IndexRef alone misses the opportunity to provide
addition
> meta data information such as type (as you point out) or a title/name. This is
also an
> important allowance for putting such a format into blogroll use. This would
also
> provide the ability for large site such as Yahoo! or Amazon to create a
distributed
> directory heirarchy.

Ah, now here you're onto something.  I'd support using it for the purpose of
hierarchically segmenting what could become monstrously large lists.  The issue
would become how to 'sensibly' markup the data such that it explained what was
being expressed.  Hierarchically separated along what lines?  Category?  Region?
Etc.  The XTM folks have considerable art worth examining here (and if you think
RSS is complicated...)

But this is among the many reasons I completely reject the premise of a fixed
default document URL.  It opens up the door to the hideously bad idea of a HUGE
index living at one and only one location, being relentlessly hammered by
ill-behaved software.

If we're going to drag them kicking and screaming into using hierarchies and
external links we might as we do it from the outset by starting with the
discovery itself.

> Hope that helps.
> [1] http://www.mplode.com/tima/archives/000319.html

What's a dc:anguage?  <grin/>

-Bill Kearney
Syndic8.com