Re: [syndication] Auto-aggregation of RSS from Blogroll management system

["Dave Winer" <dave@userland.com>]

Julian, many aggregators make it easy to publish your subscription list.
What you're trying to do is the motivation behind that. We came out with a
tool last year that put a user interface on this feature.

http://radio.userland.com/rssExplorerTool

Dave


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julian Bond" <julian_bond@voidstar.com>
To: <syndication@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [syndication] Auto-aggregation of RSS from Blogroll management
system


> Jeff Barr <jeff@vertexdev.com> wrote:
> >What exactly are you looking for, Julian? Do you want to pass
> >in the URL to some page which might contain links to feeds,
> >and get back the list of feeds on the page? Or all you
> >looking for the list of feeds which have referenced that
> >page in the past?
>
> This is how it works. This week, DW routed weblogs.com pings into an
> aggregator page of Dean campaign RSS[1]. I looked at that and thought
> there must be many more Dean RSS feeds. So I went to the blogforamerica
> page and found a huge Blogroll. Maybe 60% of the sites on the blogroll
> have an RSS feed[2]. Collecting them all involves going to each site in
> turn and scrabbling around through guesswork, auto-discovery, searching
> for an XML gif or the word syndicate and copying the url into a text
> file.
>
> What I wanted out of this is an automated system where I gave it the
> front page URL and it gave me:-
> 1) A composite RSS feed of RSS found through the blogroll
> 2) A list of the RSS feeds found for dropping into some other system.
>
> Now imagine going to a typical A-List blogger with their 50-100 blogroll
> entries. The feed in 1) is going to be close to their own reading in
> their own aggregator. Given the automated blogroll tools it may be
> exactly the list of feeds they read. So 1) and 2) are a view into the
> sources of their thinking.
>
> The point here is that the blogroll, especially with blogroll management
> tools, is a human driven classification tool. The blogroll owner is
> making conscious decisions to include or not include entries. And it's
> comparatively trivial to cut and paste a URL out of a browser and type a
> title to add an entry. I want to create the corresponding composite and
> list of RSS streams automatically because finding the RSS is still a
> pain.
>
> I haven't checked it out fully yet but I suspect bloglines does exactly
> this. If you manage your blogroll and RSS lists through them, the things
> I'm after are just a single click away with a link that can be dropped
> into your site. The reverse is where you start with a blogroll and
> generate the lists.
>
> [1]http://deancommunity.scripting.com/
> [2]There's an amazing number of Dean supporter sites that are built with
> frames, odd URLs, frontpage, word, blog*spot with no rss and so on.
> Soon, there's going to be one or more campaign aggregators and these
> people will be left out. From a technical POV, this is a great
> opportunity for RSS evangelism.
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