Re: [syndication] RSS 0.91 - skips & optional stuff

["Dave Winer" <dave@userland.com>]

Coool, now I understand. It's a special need for Moreover. They could put
the URL of the story in the RSS file, but they'd have no way of tracking
click-throughs. I said it in a previous msg, I think the next step is for
Moreover to carefully write a spec as a proposal and put it on a website and
revise it in response to feedback and additional ideas. Once specified, it
would be easy to write guidelines for aggregators. Dave


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Teter" <bigdog@bulldogbeach.com>
To: <syndication@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [syndication] RSS 0.91 - skips & optional stuff


> on 6/12/00 11:43 AM, Dave Winer at dave@userland.com wrote:
>
> > Dan, I want your RSS file to contain pointers to stories you feel are
> > relevant, whether or not they are on Flutterby. On My.UserLand you do
get a
> > link back to your log when I get directed somewhere by you. And any
> > affiliate that hooks into our story flow also knows where the link came
> > from. Maybe I still don't understand the concern. Dave
>
> In general, I think it's up to each aggregator to provide credit back to
> where they got the headline from. But I think the concern here is about
> doubly-indirected story flow.
>
> Let's say "originator.com" writes a story and posts it on their website,
> then it gets snagged via scraping, say by moreover. When I ask moreover
for
> stories in RSS format, I get an (indirect) pointer to the original story,
> but there is no indication of its original source.
>
> I can then deliver that story (headline) to my users, but all I can tell
> them is "via moreover", which isn't as useful as providing a direct link
to
> originator.com.
>
> When I aggregate content from moreover, I use the moreovernews XML format
> rather than RSS because it includes extra tags for the name of the
> originator, a link to their site, and a couple other useful things like
> whether it requires registration or not.
>
> I wouldn't mind seeing this added to RSS, but I get worried about clogging
> the spec with things like providing an "audit trail" for where headlines
> came from (originator.com to moreover.com to my site.com to
wherever.com...)
>
> PS: Congrats to moreover on their cash infusion! Now if only you guys can
> get the AP to pony up... :-)
>
> --
> Gary Teter, Big Dog
> Bulldog Beach Interactive http://www.bulldogbeach.com
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>
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