RE: Re: [syndication] RE: RFC: Clearing confusion for RSS, agreement for forward motion

["Rael Dornfest" <rael@oreilly.com>]

> From: Dave Winer [mailto:dave@userland.com]

> >>Your opinion is well known on this front.  Let's try and leave these in
> the past and keep moving forward.
>
> Rael, there's an imbalance here. We're still talking about your point of
> view from August of last year, because of the takeover of the RSS name.
> So until this matter is resolved, all points of view are relevant. Once
> resolved, per my proposal, it's off-topic.

Those are your rules; I believe the majority here was just glad to find a
way forward rather than reopening seemingly unresolveable issues for the
umpteenth tim.

> Check out Jeff Barr's post, and be glad we didn't do to your work what
> you did to ours.

A rather loaded way to put it.  There was more to it than that, and you very
much know it.  Please let's not simply open the old suitcase and take out
all the ugly bits.

> I don't think you get it. RSS existed for quite some
> time before you got interested in it, and then it was either your way or
> the highway.

Again, a mischaracterization of what actually happened.  I've already more
than given credit to you and admitted having had nothing to do with RSS
until 0.91 already existed, except as a user, that is.  All the rest is very
much a matter of record and very much _not_ my way or the highway.  I could
make similar accusations, but this road is getting really rocky really fast
and I don't think anyone wants to see it fall apart.

> As concerned as your friends are about the future of their work, you must
> now have some sense of what the last eight months have been like for those
> who believe in the simple approach to RSS. It's been a humiliating
> experience to have our work treated in such a brutal way. Solve
> the problem
> and then all is forgiven.

And that's precisely what we're doing.  "I'd like everyone to keep
discussing even if there are points of disagreement."  I'd like to add
civility to this rule, if I may.

> BTW, the poll results indicate that both communities feel the need to move
> on. Accepting my roadmap proposal is passing overwhelmingly on the
> reallySimpleSyndication list and is the most popular choice on the RSS-DEV
> poll. What more input do you need?

On the issue of naming, I'd like to hear from the users and developers.

Rael